Needle loose after resizing watch band :(

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Needle loose after resizing watch band :(

Post by withheld » 16 Jun 2015 22:40

Hi,

I wanted to try on adjusting my Seiko SARB033 myself and therefore bought a cheap watch tool kit online and follow this Youtube link which have the same toolkit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT5tO_UTDYU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I managed to take out the needle by using the toolkit below.
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When I tried to link back to the watch band, the needle is so loose that it can be come out from either side. I already tried 4 combinations to put in the needle in but to no avail.

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Should have just go to some watch shop and let the expert adjust :(

Not sure if there is still a chance to recover due to my mistake?
Or can anyone recommend me where to buy this original band and recommended any shop to get replacement?

Thanks.
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Post by roo7 » 17 Jun 2015 11:16

When you remove the pin, did you keep the collar ?

It's a very small piece of collar around that pin, that hold it in the bracelet.
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Re: Needle loose after resizing watch band :(

Post by chriscentro » 17 Jun 2015 11:20

I tried removing links for the first time few days back and managed to fix them back. However, I noticed one of the pins has a spring "collar" and one don't have, anything wrong with that?
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Post by roomse » 17 Jun 2015 14:58

all pin will have the collar.. it either drop out while you took out the pin or the collar is still inside the band link when the pin is out .. you can reuse the collar from other removed link if you lost it..
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Post by roo7 » 17 Jun 2015 16:17

Just note what kind of setup is the bracelet.

Split pins, pin/collars.

Split pins usually found in lower range models.

https://justasmallblog.wordpress.com/20 ... atch-band/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Try to use the collar from your spare links.


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Post by xzqt » 17 Jun 2015 16:29

I am sure your collar is stuck in the tool kit extractor pin.
Check it !

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Re: Needle loose after resizing watch band :(

Post by splee » 17 Jun 2015 18:41

I have resized a Sarb033 bracelet before and it's using pin and collar. You have to make sure you reinsert the needle in the opposite direction to the arrow sign and the pin collar inserted into the inner side of the other bracelet end. Not sure if you know what I meant
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Post by withheld » 17 Jun 2015 21:37

roo7 wrote:Just note what kind of setup is the bracelet.

Split pins, pin/collars.

Split pins usually found in lower range models.

https://justasmallblog.wordpress.com/20 ... atch-band/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Try to use the collar from your spare links.


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Yup, I found the same link during midnight and manage to locate back the collar on my floor and fixed it back.
Didn't know Seiko got this collar thingy as the YouTube link I followed does not have.
Should have done more research before resizing.

Since I have this cheap watch toolkit from Qoo10 > http://list.qoo10.sg/item/16IN1-WATCH-R ... H/42319168" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm not really sure how I will utilize the rest of the tools. But next I would probably want to learn is to change the whole strap.

Questions here:
1) For this Seiko SARB033 "collar/pin" type band watch, do I need to take note of any thing?
2) Can I follow this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2xrEgjchKk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ?
3) Any recommended online/offline shop to purchase nice and quality strap for my watch?
4) In what scenario I would be utilizing the rest of the tools from the watch tool kit?

Thanks.
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Re: Needle loose after resizing watch band :(

Post by withheld » 17 Jun 2015 22:27

Another question.
After resizing the watch (removed one link) and wear it for 1 day, I felt it is a bit tight for me.

I am wondering if I can adjust the following by moving it from red circle to blue circle?
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If not, I wonder is there any customized link which have a shorter length?
Else, I have to bear with it.
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Post by roo7 » 18 Jun 2015 00:55

Yes that's what we call micro adjustments.

It's a bit of art, removing links from the 12 or 6 o'clock segment. It's usually like 6/3 7/4 or something like that.

At least you managed on your own !
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Re: Needle loose after resizing watch band :(

Post by geengar » 18 Jun 2015 09:42

Just to add on to bro roo7, the 6/3 7/4 split is to ensure the clasp is exactly opposite of the watch case, square at the centre of the wrist for maximum comfort. Different clasp size will require split for the bracelet in the 6 and 12 o'clock segment.
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Re: Needle loose after resizing watch band :(

Post by splee » 18 Jun 2015 10:33

Agree with bro roo7, it's a bit of an art to the get the right fit and alignment. It takes some practice to get it right. You have to have a good eyesight and lots of patient when resizing the watch band as you are working with small parts especially the collar. Make sure you have a proper working desk and good lighting so you can see what you are doing and if any parts went missing you can find it back.
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Post by withheld » 18 Jun 2015 23:00

roo7 wrote:Yes that's what we call micro adjustments.

It's a bit of art, removing links from the 12 or 6 o'clock segment. It's usually like 6/3 7/4 or something like that.

At least you managed on your own !
Thanks for that and the keyword for "micro adjustment".
Managed to find a YouTube link based on the keyword and adjusted it successfully.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaVcNC8OdeY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now I feel the adjustment is much more comfortable and correct now.
Thanks for all the help :)
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Re: Needle loose after resizing watch band :(

Post by withheld » 18 Jun 2015 23:11

Moving forward if I have more free time, I would like to explore further on:
1) Changing watch strap
2) How to further utilized this cheap watch toolkit from Qoo10 > http://list.qoo10.sg/item/16IN1-WATCH-R ... /423191688" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
3) How can I make my stainless steel watch strap more shiny or removed the scratch mark.

For point 1 above, it would be great if anyone can recommend me some online/offline shop to purchase nice and quality strap for my watch?

For point 3, based on my post #1 in this thread, there are some scratch mark. I researched and found some people actually used Scotch-Brite Green / Grey version to clean the watch.
Would like to hear any user experience and feedback on this?
Is it available at any supermarket?

Thanks.
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