you are right that i may be the one involved in dial design, however, there is still input from the rest. also for me, i decided on the watch model first. so then there was the issue is sell with watch or not. sell with watch, need papers and/or box (original or not). the combination becomes more and more. with more choices, it complicates things. some want this and some want that. so i decided just sell dial only. leave the decision to buy a watch with box and/or papers to buyers. so it means just dial only. simple. easier to work with.
maybe i need to rephrase. i know this forum community is close knit. as such, everyone like to contribute to it. that is good. however, bottom line is that someone/some people have to make the final decision.
also when the question asking whether buyer wants dial or complete watch, it will make things complicated. because for a particular movement, it may be housed in different models. so some may want model A, some want model B, then how? not possible just to do say 2 of model A, 3 of model B, then 10 dials only. this will increase cost of production. if there is only say dial + hands vs complete watch. it may lead to lower cost of production because of the more of one item is purchased, the more likely to get higher discount is there.
as for logo of the forum, i strongly agree with you that it represents the identity of the forum. this is exactly what i told one of the members whom i believe is involved in this project. everyone can contribute to the design, opinions can be sought after. but this logo chosen should be left to the discretion of the forum owner.
as for dial design such as dial color, wordings, markers, design, everyone can contribute as well.
the most important thing as mentioned previously is sort out what is more important first. concentrate on the dial design first. once dial design is firm. then chose movement. this is because it does not make sense(logical) to chose a movement with date and/or day when there is no date and/or day window. though i know is possible. the rest of the process will fall into place.
as what i see now, there are too many variables that affect members decision making. for i am interested in this forum watch. however, i place emphasis more in movement rather than say dial design and watch model. so i rather wait till dial design is finalised, watch model is decided, then i can decide if i want to get the dial and hands or complete watch. this may probably explain why the interest to purchase a forum watch is high but the commitment level is not matching the level of interest.
the good thing about seiko watches is that this movement can be housed in different models. so if i do not like monster design model watch, i can just order the dial and hands and get another model to swap dial and hands. it will make my decision easier.
as such, once the dial design is firm, the team can then choose the watch movement. once these 2 items is firm, it makes decision making easier for buyers. dial + hands or complete watch.
my suggestion is break the entire process into smaller manageable parts. solve each part first. then group all the small parts. it is similar to programming. i am sure most programmers will know this.
i agree that if members can participate in decision making process, they will be more convinced to buy the watch. make it easier for the members to participate. do not get the wrong impression that i am putting forward that the team and forum owner decide, the members are equally important to contribute. im trying to suggest, break the parts into smaller manageable parts,
for example for dial design,
for dial
choice of color of dial - black/blue/red/purple
choice of markers
choice of date and/or day and/or no date/day
......
for movement
7s26
6R15
......
for model
sumo
monster
diver
.....
hope everyone gets a clearer picture.......
sorry me old man liao. very long winded.
Ed.YEO wrote:Brudder. There's nothing wrong with ur experience. Infact something which we can learn from it.
But I would like to point out. That's the involvement of u in the dial design...soley. So definitely there will be no other arguments since u r the onli designer of the dial.
Here is a different story liaoz... Besides the dial, there's also the logo of the forum that represents the identity. As well as the design of the bezel that eventually blends well with the design of the dial and hands.
So... Options, is the only way to keep other members convinced to their choice that makes this perfect piece.