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Re: Photography

Post by Wade » 26 Oct 2014 09:47

chriscentro wrote:ya, not as bright, can dial in some more power on the flash unit or lower shutter speed to 1/50 - 1/60 secs. Btw, your flash is the 900 or 700 series?
I using TTL now or should i use M whereby I can select the 1/64, 1/32 or other. Flash is Speedlight SP-780.
btw, what does 1/1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64 & 1/128 mean? it is refer to the power of the shot out light?

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Re: Photography

Post by chriscentro » 26 Oct 2014 10:03

ya, those numbers are for manually choosing the flash power....usually TTL does the job but if it doesnt, power it up a bit.
Try to review your shot on the cam immediately after you take the photo, don't go home already then discover mistakes made, too late liao.
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Re: Photography

Post by Wade » 26 Oct 2014 10:07

chriscentro wrote:ya, those numbers are for manually choosing the flash power....usually TTL does the job but if it doesnt, power it up a bit.
Try to review your shot on the cam immediately after you take the photo, don't go home already then discover mistakes made, too late liao.
i just try a few shot at 1/50s, f/8 & 1/1, 1/2 and 1/4. I notice that the more power on the flash make the photo darker. hope my understand is correct less number meaning more power of light been use.

btw if outdoor, does ISO100, 1/50s to 1/80 with not flash should be ok right?
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Re: Photography

Post by chriscentro » 26 Oct 2014 10:19

yes, 1/1 is full power, 1/128 is much lesser power....
google for the relationships (or triangle) between ISO, shutter speed and aperture, these settings affect the exposure of the shot.
Adding flash is adding another element that u need to learn to control, flash photography is not that straight forward.
I can understand why pro photographers use flash when taking events photos. But I'm not and don't use flash for events, as I'm not paid for it and I think i can afford to be more creative using just ambient light.
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Re: Photography

Post by Wade » 26 Oct 2014 10:20

shot taken at f/8, 1/50 & ISO200 with M setting on flash. I find that 1/4 should be ok and the more number up on the flash make the photo darker.

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Re: Photography

Post by chriscentro » 26 Oct 2014 10:23

ya, 1/4 looks right. Btw, didnt know Nikon has the SB780 liao, they are coming up with new flash models so fast!
Btw, if your D5200's built in flash can act as a commander, you can play with off cam flash, it's fun.
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Re: Photography

Post by Wade » 26 Oct 2014 10:24

chriscentro wrote:yes, 1/1 is full power, 1/128 is much lesser power....
google for the relationships (or triangle) between ISO, shutter speed and aperture, these settings affect the exposure of the shot.
Adding flash is adding another element that u need to learn to control, flash photography is not that straight forward.
I can understand why pro photographers use flash when taking events photos. But I'm not and don't use flash for events, as I'm not paid for it and I think i can afford to be more creative using just ambient light.
lol i not pro and there is a pro main photographer for my bro-in-law wedding. I just only take for my practice and keeping purpose.
btw, how abt outdoor setting? ISO100, 1/50s to 1/80 with not flash should be ok right?
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Re: Photography

Post by Wade » 26 Oct 2014 10:27

chriscentro wrote:ya, 1/4 looks right. Btw, didnt know Nikon has the SB780 liao, they are coming up with new flash models so fast!
Btw, if your D5200's built in flash can act as a commander, you can play with off cam flash, it's fun.
hehe, the flash is not from Nikon. a brand name as Q-mini Speedlight SP-780 suitable for Nikon... :( not $$$ buy nikon flash, so get a OEM to fit the job.
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Re: Photography

Post by chriscentro » 26 Oct 2014 10:28

Wade wrote:
chriscentro wrote:yes, 1/1 is full power, 1/128 is much lesser power....
google for the relationships (or triangle) between ISO, shutter speed and aperture, these settings affect the exposure of the shot.
Adding flash is adding another element that u need to learn to control, flash photography is not that straight forward.
I can understand why pro photographers use flash when taking events photos. But I'm not and don't use flash for events, as I'm not paid for it and I think i can afford to be more creative using just ambient light.
lol i not pro and there is a pro main photographer for my bro-in-law wedding. I just only take for my practice and keeping purpose.
btw, how abt outdoor setting? ISO100, 1/50s to 1/80 with not flash should be ok right?
actually very difficult to answer your question, it depends on the light at your location at that time. Like I say, look at your cam's LCD to check exposure.

SInce you are not the main photog, my view is don't use flash, just up your ISO to attain sufficient shutter speed. Another thing, learn to manually set the white balance especially when you are indoor and not using flash.
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Re: Photography

Post by chriscentro » 26 Oct 2014 10:29

Wade wrote:
chriscentro wrote:ya, 1/4 looks right. Btw, didnt know Nikon has the SB780 liao, they are coming up with new flash models so fast!
Btw, if your D5200's built in flash can act as a commander, you can play with off cam flash, it's fun.
hehe, the flash is not from Nikon. a brand name as Q-mini Speedlight SP-780 suitable for Nikon... :( not $$$ buy nikon flash, so get a OEM to fit the job.
oh man, they did a good homage!
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Re: Photography

Post by chriscentro » 26 Oct 2014 10:37

May be our Chef bro can come in and give your some other tips too as I find that he is quite technical minded when he commented in this thread.
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Re: Photography

Post by Wade » 26 Oct 2014 10:42

now i try with f1/8, 1/60 & ISO100 with M setting on flash. which photo should be ok?

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1/8
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Re: Photography

Post by chriscentro » 26 Oct 2014 10:58

actually it doesnt matter, i took the darkest one and brighten it up
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go out and shoot some real subjects better
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Re: Photography

Post by Wade » 26 Oct 2014 11:00

@christcentro, I notice that there is many selection and hope my understand is correct

incandescent = indoor

fluorescent = indoor

direct sunlight = outdoor

flash = it is ok to use with bounce flash

cloudy = outdoor

shade = outdoor

pre manual
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Re: Photography

Post by chriscentro » 26 Oct 2014 11:13

Wade wrote:@christcentro, I notice that there is many selection and hope my understand is correct

incandescent = indoor

fluorescent = indoor

direct sunlight = outdoor

flash = it is ok to use with bounce flash

cloudy = outdoor

shade = outdoor

pre manual
Yup, that should be it. Personally, I've never used any of these presets.
Most of the time in Auto WB but I will manually set the WB in incandescent lighting as auto mode would probably render the image too orangey.
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Re: Photography

Post by chriscentro » 26 Oct 2014 11:22

just read the review on your D5200. These are 2 of the PROs

* Excellent low ISO performance in both JPEG and Raw files
* Class-leading noise performance at high ISO sensitivities

This makes me want to reiterate, no flash photography :D
Use your 35mm f1.8 lens and go around shooting it at f1.8 and enjoy the shallow depth of field (that's why we buy DSLR, to me at least)
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Re: Photography

Post by Wade » 26 Oct 2014 11:26

ok will get change and go out shot at f/1.8 & f/8.0 with ISO100 & 1/50 to 1/80.
will update the shot when i back home
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Re: Photography

Post by chriscentro » 26 Oct 2014 11:30

Wade wrote:ok will get change and go out shot at f/1.8 & f/8.0 with ISO100 & 1/50 to 1/80.
will update the shot when i back home
haha, I'm going out now too with 2 lenses 35 and 50mm.
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Re: Photography

Post by Wade » 26 Oct 2014 12:05

Outdoor is diff setting, arrrh...
Now using 1/400, f/8.0 & ISO100. If i select 1/60, it too bright.
Btw, what shutter speed is suitable for outdoor?
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Re: Photography

Post by TheChef » 26 Oct 2014 12:21

Wade wrote:Outdoor is diff setting, arrrh...
Now using 1/400, f/8.0 & ISO100. If i select 1/60, it too bright.
Btw, what shutter speed is suitable for outdoor?
Shutter speed depends on your subject and the effects that you want to show. Bro, just hoot lah and see for yourself. Hoot first talk later also applies to photography.
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