Deutsch Zeitmesser : Steinhart

zeikphur · Post by **zeikphur** » 09 Feb 2012 15:58

This brand has been gaining a lot of popularity overseas as well as locally.
Bros, what are your take on its future and will it be the next sinn (acquired by HG or other horological giants),
thus sky-rocketing its value?

Ed.YEO · Post by **Ed.YEO** » 09 Feb 2012 16:32

STEINHART's ability to gain popularities is partly due to its low-profile marketing strategies, where no public figures are employed to promote their products. Control in staffing also plays a part in getting the costs down. Hence, with their "general priced" tags, most folks would shift away from ultra budget TISSOT and go for STEINHART instead. Ask yourself... lets say, now there are 2 watches placed in front of you, a STEIHART Ocean 1 @ SGD600 vs TISSOT divers model priced @ SGD700, both rated @ 300m WR. Which will you choose?

(for 700SGD, i can get this...)

However, when compare to UHR, STEINHARTs price could be a little high. But when we look closely, UHR's catalogue models are mostly OEMs, and you can find splitting images elsewhere. Low-profiled marketing strategies like no stars advertising factors also plays some part in keeping the selling price low.
UHR had a winning stage currently over STEINHART, is not only the lower price tag, but also the unknown fact on how many people behind the operation such that prompt order processing service can be finished within a few hours of transaction And its a big contrast in STEINAHRT.
Just look at this thread and you'll know...
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f275/perha ... 76889.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Since now STEIHART popularity is growing in overwhelming speed, i see that STEINHART will eventually hit themselves on their foot due to large demand over small numbers of staff in processing stage. If they are to be sold off to bigger companies, such as maybe example... like SWATCH group, most likely their products would be marketed with price tags close to the level of HAMILTONs.

Ed.YEO · Post by **Ed.YEO** » 09 Feb 2012 16:35

zeikphur wrote:This brand has been gaining a lot of popularity overseas as well as locally.
Bros, what are your take on its future and will it be the next sinn (acquired by HG or other horological giants),
thus sky-rocketing its value?

In order to reach the SINN status... STEINHART has to be acquired by bigger and expensive watch group, such as G.O or A.L.S, then marketed as their sub category product.

fireal · Post by **fireal** » 09 Feb 2012 19:59

Ed.YEO wrote:STEINHART's ability to gain popularities is partly due to its low-profile marketing strategies, where no public figures are employed to promote their products. Control in staffing also plays a part in getting the costs down. Hence, with their "general priced" tags, most folks would shift away from ultra budget TISSOT and go for STEINHART instead. Ask yourself... lets say, now there are 2 watches placed in front of you, a STEIHART Ocean 1 @ SGD600 vs TISSOT divers model priced @ SGD700, both rated @ 300m WR. Which will you choose?

(for 700SGD, i can get this...)

i'd go for the tissot

sellwatch · Post by **sellwatch** » 09 Feb 2012 20:05

Steinhart mostly are homage. Iirc, there is only 2 watches that are not homages.

If they need to break thru, the designs better be something tasteful and not copying others and putting their name on it.

eguy899 · Post by **eguy899** » 09 Feb 2012 22:00

sellwatch wrote:Steinhart mostly are homage. Iirc, there is only 2 watches that are not homages.

If they need to break thru, the designs better be something tasteful and not copying others and putting their name on it.

this Apollon Chrono not homage leh. jin swee!

the Nav-B Chrono II also velli nice!

http://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/Nav-B ... l,165.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

... and the Proteus of course!

Ed.YEO · Post by **Ed.YEO** » 09 Feb 2012 22:16

sellwatch wrote:Steinhart mostly are homage. Iirc, there is only 2 watches that are not homages.

If they need to break thru, the designs better be something tasteful and not copying others and putting their name on it.

STEINHART's designs are getting better and better that they are shifting themselves from making homages.
However, if we're to look back at other watch makers, even SEIKO and ORIENT have their fair share of homage models as well... so, it would be natural for new brand/labels to make homage pieces first, accumulate their earnings, before going full force on their own designs.
TRITON, PROTEUS, APOLLON are STEINHARTs first few range that are non homage. So as the upcoming Ocean2 divers. Also look out for the gran-prix special auto chrono that's coming up in middle of the year as well.

hisokaka · Post by **hisokaka** » 09 Feb 2012 22:48

eguy899 wrote:
sellwatch wrote:Steinhart mostly are homage. Iirc, there is only 2 watches that are not homages.

If they need to break thru, the designs better be something tasteful and not copying others and putting their name on it.
this Apollon Chrono not homage leh. jin swee!

... and the Proteus of course!

these 3 look really solid!

sellwatch · Post by **sellwatch** » 09 Feb 2012 23:54

eguy899 wrote:
sellwatch wrote:Steinhart mostly are homage. Iirc, there is only 2 watches that are not homages.

If they need to break thru, the designs better be something tasteful and not copying others and putting their name on it.
this Apollon Chrono not homage leh. jin swee!

the Nav-B Chrono II also velli nice!
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/Nav-B ... l,165.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

... and the Proteus of course!

Exactly the 2 models I recall. Lol.

sinner1974 · Post by **sinner1974** » 10 Feb 2012 09:20

And the Triton too, originated from steinhart.

zeikphur · Post by **zeikphur** » 10 Feb 2012 14:20

Thanks guys for your kind insights and thoughts.

Ed.YEO wrote:
sellwatch wrote:Steinhart mostly are homage. Iirc, there is only 2 watches that are not homages.

If they need to break thru, the designs better be something tasteful and not copying others and putting their name on it.
STEINHART's designs are getting better and better that they are shifting themselves from making homages.
However, if we're to look back at other watch makers, even SEIKO and ORIENT have their fair share of homage models as well... so, it would be natural for new brand/labels to make homage pieces first, accumulate their earnings, before going full force on their own designs.
TRITON, PROTEUS, APOLLON are STEINHARTs first few range that are non homage. So as the upcoming Ocean2 divers. Also look out for the gran-prix special auto chrono that's coming up in middle of the year as well.

Bro ED, though the Steinhart Grand Prix pays homage to the Chopard Grand Prix De Monaco Historique Chronograph.

Nevertheless, its a nice piece all round

zeikphur · Post by **zeikphur** » 10 Feb 2012 14:36

Humm, maybe to attain to SINN status, is kinda over the top.
I would think, to be able to come close to Meistersinger or even Nomos Glashütte, is still job well done for the company

herzausstahl · Post by **herzausstahl** » 12 Feb 2012 13:13

wah I want an apollon!

big-e-294 · Post by **big-e-294** » 13 Feb 2012 10:51

Is the Steinhart Nav-B Chrono II worth getting?

Ed.YEO · Post by **Ed.YEO** » 13 Feb 2012 10:58

big-e-294 wrote:Is the Steinhart Nav-B Chrono II worth getting?

Definitely worth getting. Considering the price with shipping @ around SGD1.4k(gnomo @ abt 1.5), HAMILTONs with elabore movements priced more than that... STEINHARTs is more VFM lo.

big-e-294 · Post by **big-e-294** » 13 Feb 2012 12:18

Ed.YEO wrote:
big-e-294 wrote:Is the Steinhart Nav-B Chrono II worth getting?
Definitely worth getting. Considering the price with shipping @ around SGD1.4k(gnomo @ abt 1.5), HAMILTONs with elabore movements priced more than that... STEINHARTs is more VFM lo.

How does Steinhart compare with Archimede?

just curious and hoping to learn more before i decide and commit

lunarin79 · Post by **lunarin79** » 13 Feb 2012 12:23

big-e-294 wrote:just curious and hoping to learn more before i decide and commit

steinhart,archimede & sinn?

big-e-294 · Post by **big-e-294** » 13 Feb 2012 12:36

lunarin79 wrote:
big-e-294 wrote:just curious and hoping to learn more before i decide and commit
steinhart,archimede & sinn?

that's arranged in order by price right?

the archimede pilot chrono is quite nice too.

Ed.YEO · Post by **Ed.YEO** » 13 Feb 2012 12:44

Comparing ARCHIMEDE FLIEGER Chrono to STEIHART, the only difference you'll see is that the date window is placed at 6oclock position, while STEINHART's date window is opened in a tradditional position of 3 o'clock. ARCHIMEDE lacks of a day window, STEINHART comes with.

Of all the 3 you have listed, STEINHART is definitely a better budget buy... but if you want something that have resale value... you have to pay more for SINN.

By the way... the way you arrange the brands in sequence, it's from budget to expensive... ARCHIMEDE is about 1.8k if i'm not wrong...SINN more higher.

big-e-294 · Post by **big-e-294** » 13 Feb 2012 15:40

Ed.YEO wrote:Comparing ARCHIMEDE FLIEGER Chrono to STEIHART, the only difference you'll see is that the date window is placed at 6oclock position, while STEINHART's date window is opened in a tradditional position of 3 o'clock. ARCHIMEDE lacks of a day window, STEINHART comes with.

Of all the 3 you have listed, STEINHART is definitely a better budget buy... but if you want something that have resale value... you have to pay more for SINN.

By the way... the way you arrange the brands in sequence, it's from budget to expensive... ARCHIMEDE is about 1.8k if i'm not wrong...SINN more higher.

Sinn is definitely out.

but i noticed the Archimede is sized at 42mm and a matt/satin finish, while the Steinhart is at 44mm with a brushed finish.
the day window may be a selling point for some, but personally i'm ok without the day window

the crowns are also different.

i think i need to compare them both side by side.