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Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 16:57
by david.tan
not good to handwind and not good to shake, might as well get quartz :D

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 17:00
by oncleoliver
might as well wear... a smartwatch

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 17:02
by Ed.YEO
And since we had brought ETA calibres into discussion here...
Maybe we could take a look into ETA 2801 and 7760, which are basically 2824 and 7750 with rotors removed.
With the rotors removed... they became handwinds immediately.:?:

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 17:09
by roo7
Ed if you read the link, as an overview, they are the same but the wheel for the winding system has finer teeth for 2824.

So effectively it's being driven faster with smaller rotor movements as compared to hand winding.

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 17:39
by jveron
Wear and tear will happen regardless you wind or not. That's why we need to send our watches for service. The same goes for us human that we aged and get old

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 18:17
by demogoblin
TheChef wrote:Cannot shake and cannot wind. Jia lat.
Put in watch winder lol


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Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 19:02
by TheChef
david.tan wrote:not good to handwind and not good to shake, might as well get quartz :D
Quartz watch circuit board also got limited lifespan. How?

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 19:10
by doinkydoink
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Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 19:20
by oncleoliver
Hahahahhahaabbaa

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 28 Oct 2014 06:18
by demogoblin
rojakman wrote:Yah ... my friend working in the watch sales industry also say not advisable to shake watch to get it moving.
Die lah...when I first bought the watch they will shake it first for me lol...

BTW your marine tank in your DP? Looks impressive!

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 28 Oct 2014 09:42
by rojakman
demogoblin wrote:
rojakman wrote:Yah ... my friend working in the watch sales industry also say not advisable to shake watch to get it moving.
Die lah...when I first bought the watch they will shake it first for me lol...

BTW your marine tank in your DP? Looks impressive!
Yup that was a few years ago. Gave it to my friend when i moved. :(

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 28 Oct 2014 17:47
by watchlooker
Relax guys. Dun worry too much on the wear and tear of automatic and handwindable watch. For all you know, the watch will still be moving after you are gone.
Life is too short to worry too much. Just enjoy your hobby.

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 28 Oct 2014 17:58
by big-e-294
i dont know how hard you guys shake your watch, but I am sure you have noticed you dont need to shake it so vigorously to get it started. Gentle side to side shake will do.
I am also sure your watch takes on a lot more sudden movements now and again throughout the day.

As for the hand winding of automatic watches.
I have come across several discussions about the ETA 2824 having wear and tear from crown winding, but i doubt it is a cause for concern... there are ALOT of ETA 2824 in ALOT of watches out there.
If this was a serious issue, there will be a lot of watches coming back and ETA 2824 would not have lasted as long as it has.

The SA was probably just being helpful by giving a kind advise... (or he's really trying to sell you a watch winder ;) )

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 28 Oct 2014 21:24
by Trident
If handwinding a automatic watch is bad, why do watch maker keep making them?
Anyway, for me I like to caress my watch every night, wind or shake them and prepare the watch I am wearing the next day.
That's where the fun is, not worrying about wear and tear.

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 28 Oct 2014 21:45
by lunarin79
for me, i dun really mind about the handwind part.

usually i swirl to kickstart it and wind it about 15-20 turns of the crown and strap it on.

for delicate parts within the movement, it's part & parcel for wear & tear.

just like a car.

Re: Not good to handwind automatic watches

Posted: 29 Oct 2014 11:14
by TheChef
Seiko movements are known to be hardy and reliable. Definitely not made from tofu. Seiko is my first choice for daily wear watches. I think we should worry less and wear our watches in good health.