Watch regulation workshop

nightwatchman · Post by **nightwatchman** » 13 Nov 2013 08:04

Any bros here will like to learn watch regulation and simple maintenance? I can conduct a free workshop to those of you who are interested. The subject will be a basic Seiko 7S26 caliber automatic movement. Please show hands if you are keen.

Pokefan · Post by **Pokefan** » 13 Nov 2013 09:49

Got any requirements and when will you be conducting?

I don't have 7s26, only 7s25

nightwatchman · Post by **nightwatchman** » 13 Nov 2013 10:01

Pokefan wrote:Got any requirements and when will you be conducting?

I don't have 7s26, only 7s25

No requirement, just simple watch tools, a pair of steady hands and lots of patience. Both Seiko 7S26 and 7S25 are basically the same mechanism-wise. The only difference is the latter doesn't have a day dial.

By the way, we are not going that deep because it requires special tools to remove the hands. Also, you must know what you are doing to go that deep into a mechanical watch.

big-e-294 · Post by **big-e-294** » 13 Nov 2013 14:22

I'm interested.
Do you have more details on what's required of the participants?
Do we need our own tools, movt, etc?

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david.tan · Post by **david.tan** » 13 Nov 2013 14:24

interesting, i do have opener and toothpick, dun have the machine to measure the accuracy

nightwatchman · Post by **nightwatchman** » 13 Nov 2013 14:27

big-e-294 wrote:I'm interested.
Do you have more details on what's required of the participants?
Do we need our own tools, movt, etc?

Sent from The Force

No need. I will bring the movement and tools. By the way, please don't spend money buying watch tools. They are extremely expensive and overpriced in Singapore. I will advise all of you what to buy and where to buy.

nightwatchman · Post by **nightwatchman** » 13 Nov 2013 14:32

david.tan wrote:interesting, i do have opener and toothpick, dun have the machine to measure the accuracy

No timing machine required but if you wish to purchase a set, I can advise you where to order one. Tool-wise, I suggest you hold back first. These watch tools are overpriced locally.

zeikphur · Post by **zeikphur** » 13 Nov 2013 14:40

Am keen as well, probably ya could fill us in on the details
Cheers

nightwatchman · Post by **nightwatchman** » 13 Nov 2013 14:56

zeikphur wrote:Am keen as well, probably ya could fill us in on the details
Cheers

I am trying to see how many of you are keen. Let's limit to 8 persons. Location-wise, any suggestions. Can meet in town. Preferably somewhere quiet and we can talk loudly. (please don't suggest a public library).

big-e-294 · Post by **big-e-294** » 13 Nov 2013 17:02

nightwatchman wrote:
big-e-294 wrote:I'm interested.
Do you have more details on what's required of the participants?
Do we need our own tools, movt, etc?

Sent from The Force
No need. I will bring the movement and tools. By the way, please don't spend money buying watch tools. They are extremely expensive and overpriced in Singapore. I will advise all of you what to buy and where to buy.

I hv the following which I've been using:
- two prong caseback opener
- 10x loupe
- presto hands remover
- hands setter (hr, min, sec)

All cheap cheap made in china ones

Please let us know the time and place. Thanks for arranging.

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david.tan · Post by **david.tan** » 13 Nov 2013 17:13

perhaps we can set a date time and venue, with list of member who interested to join

Pokefan · Post by **Pokefan** » 13 Nov 2013 17:23

Have a few suggestions,

1) Starbucks/Coffeebean in Millenia walk
2) Benches at SMU (Towards Bras Basah station side)
3) Hanis Cafe outside of NLB @ Bugis

However these few places sometimes got ppl studying, so if too loud later like pai sei.
Also the availability of seats can be quite limited at certain timings.
Orchard side never been able to find a good quiet place so far.
Perhaps some bros might know some other nice places.

nightwatchman · Post by **nightwatchman** » 13 Nov 2013 17:29

big-e-294 wrote:I hv the following which I've been using:
- two prong caseback opener
- 10x loupe
- presto hands remover
- hands setter (hr, min, sec)

All cheap cheap made in china ones

Be careful when using a China-made hands remover. They WILL scratch the watch face if not careful. Better to buy Bergeon ones. Use a face protector if you insist on using Chinese hands remover. Only $6 a piece to protect your investment.

When working with watches, a 10x loupe is too strong. I suggest using either 4x or 6x magnification.

nightwatchman · Post by **nightwatchman** » 13 Nov 2013 17:31

david.tan wrote:perhaps we can set a date time and venue, with list of member who interested to join

I will let you know when. Currently, I have some work projects to complete. Probably in December.

nightwatchman · Post by **nightwatchman** » 13 Nov 2013 17:35

Pokefan wrote:Have a few suggestions,

1) Starbucks/Coffeebean in Millenia walk

I don't think these cafes are well-lit.

Pokefan wrote: 2) Benches at SMU (Towards Bras Basah station side)
3) Hanis Cafe outside of NLB @ Bugis .

These are no places to open a watch case. Dusty, dusty, dusty...

nightwatchman · Post by **nightwatchman** » 13 Nov 2013 18:19

Guys,

Don't buy any watch tools unless you already have some. Buying watch tools is an expensive and continuous process (yes, non-stop). There is a tool for virtually every part of a watch. Worst of all, using cheap watch tools can damage your hard-earn investment.

By the way, you don't have to bring anything during the workshop. I will use my own tools and movement to demo.

big-e-294 · Post by **big-e-294** » 13 Nov 2013 19:36

nightwatchman wrote:
david.tan wrote:perhaps we can set a date time and venue, with list of member who interested to join
I will let you know when. Currently, I have some work projects to complete. Probably in December.

I hope it's early December, as I will not be ard later dec.

Sent from The Force

big-e-294 · Post by **big-e-294** » 13 Nov 2013 19:42

nightwatchman wrote:
big-e-294 wrote:I hv the following which I've been using:
- two prong caseback opener
- 10x loupe
- presto hands remover
- hands setter (hr, min, sec)

All cheap cheap made in china ones
Be careful when using a China-made hands remover. They WILL scratch the watch face if not careful. Better to buy Bergeon ones. Use a face protector if you insist on using Chinese hands remover. Only $6 a piece to protect your investment.

When working with watches, a 10x loupe is too strong. I suggest using either 4x or 6x magnification.

Yes. I've learnt a few lessons on practice watches (I've snapped a couple of hands before). I do use a face protector now.

As you mentioned, watch tools are expensive and I don't tinker enough to justify investing in more expensive tools at the moment.

I've completed a few mods and that's it, but it's all superficial, change hands, dial, etc. nothing too technical into the movt. My technique is definitely all wrong.

So I'm really looking forward to learning. I hope the timing works out well.

Thanks again for arranging bro.

Sent from The Force

nightwatchman · Post by **nightwatchman** » 13 Nov 2013 20:15

big-e-294 wrote:
I've completed a few mods and that's it, but it's all superficial, change hands, dial, etc. nothing too technical into the movt. My technique is definitely all wrong.

It looks like you already got some hands-on experience. I don't know if this workshop suits you. Just very basic information on watch regulating and maintenance.

david.tan · Post by **david.tan** » 13 Nov 2013 20:58

you were right about tools to be use on watch, it must be high quality and precisely fit in order not to damage the watch

seems like you have good lubang to intro us to get those tools ?