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Before buying pam, I advice pple stop looking too much into the movements.
If you are looking at a big, simple yet elegant design, I think you wont go wrong with the pams.
Is a love hate relationship thou. Some models with their in house movement, can hold their price very well, some dont. And their models r way too many and they look almost identical that I feel is 1 of their downside.
If you wanna buy, read up more on the web as there are too many articles for you to digest before you make the plunge.
There will always b 2 diff camps of pple for whatever watch you r going to buy. So, unless u r disturbed, then you can decide on ypur own.
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If you are looking at a big, simple yet elegant design, I think you wont go wrong with the pams.
Is a love hate relationship thou. Some models with their in house movement, can hold their price very well, some dont. And their models r way too many and they look almost identical that I feel is 1 of their downside.
If you wanna buy, read up more on the web as there are too many articles for you to digest before you make the plunge.
There will always b 2 diff camps of pple for whatever watch you r going to buy. So, unless u r disturbed, then you can decide on ypur own.
Cheers
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Don't like PAM, due to design, perhaps quite a few of my colleagues own PAM and they look too large on their wrists, male and female included. They wear bigger than their actual size. Not suitable for me and at their price range lots of other choices.
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ivan wrote:Before buying pam, I advice pple stop looking too much into the movements.
If you are looking at a big, simple yet elegant design, I think you wont go wrong with the pams.
Is a love hate relationship thou. Some models with their in house movement, can hold their price very well, some dont. And their models r way too many and they look almost identical that I feel is 1 of their downside.
If you wanna buy, read up more on the web as there are too many articles for you to digest before you make the plunge.
There will always b 2 diff camps of pple for whatever watch you r going to buy. So, unless u r disturbed, then you can decide on ypur own.
Cheers
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What do you think of the 312? It,s tbe cheapest with in-house movement right?balzebub71 wrote:Don't like PAM, due to design, perhaps quite a few of my colleagues own PAM and they look too large on their wrists, male and female included. They wear bigger than their actual size. Not suitable for me and at their price range lots of other choices.
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Altho i like iwc but i,ve got those entry level 1s alr and their 7 days model abit expensive fr me. Lol. But i agree many of the pam design look very similar
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I like ot too. the 312 sandwich dial with p9000 movement. The case is nice n big. Did I mention heavy?Jeryltan wrote:ivan wrote:Before buying pam, I advice pple stop looking too much into the movements.
If you are looking at a big, simple yet elegant design, I think you wont go wrong with the pams.
Is a love hate relationship thou. Some models with their in house movement, can hold their price very well, some dont. And their models r way too many and they look almost identical that I feel is 1 of their downside.
If you wanna buy, read up more on the web as there are too many articles for you to digest before you make the plunge.
There will always b 2 diff camps of pple for whatever watch you r going to buy. So, unless u r disturbed, then you can decide on ypur own.
Cheers
Sent from my SM-N9005 using TapatalkWhat do you think of the 312? It,s tbe cheapest with in-house movement right?balzebub71 wrote:Don't like PAM, due to design, perhaps quite a few of my colleagues own PAM and they look too large on their wrists, male and female included. They wear bigger than their actual size. Not suitable for me and at their price range lots of other choices.
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Altho i like iwc but i,ve got those entry level 1s alr and their 7 days model abit expensive fr me. Lol. But i agree many of the pam design look very similar
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Look for preowned bah.
Quite gd price for 3days reserved watch.
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Ya was look at preown but price not attractive le. Preown pple asking 7-7.5k but brand new i,m getting aroung 8.5-9k. Hm. But the relatively high preown price was what made ne interested in this model. Lolivan wrote:I like ot too. the 312 sandwich dial with p9000 movement. The case is nice n big. Did I mention heavy?Jeryltan wrote:
What do you think of the 312? It,s tbe cheapest with in-house movement right?
Altho i like iwc but i,ve got those entry level 1s alr and their 7 days model abit expensive fr me. Lol. But i agree many of the pam design look very similar
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Look for preowned bah.
Quite gd price for 3days reserved watch.
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We can discuss this price thing privately.Jeryltan wrote:Ya was look at preown but price not attractive le. Preown pple asking 7-7.5k but brand new i,m getting aroung 8.5-9k. Hm. But the relatively high preown price was what made ne interested in this model. Lolivan wrote:
I like ot too. the 312 sandwich dial with p9000 movement. The case is nice n big. Did I mention heavy?
Look for preowned bah.
Quite gd price for 3days reserved watch.
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Oops sorry. Didn,t know it,s sensitive topicivan wrote:We can discuss this price thing privately.Jeryltan wrote:
Ya was look at preown but price not attractive le. Preown pple asking 7-7.5k but brand new i,m getting aroung 8.5-9k. Hm. But the relatively high preown price was what made ne interested in this model. Lol
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Panerai has been using outsourced movement for a long period in it's history(Rolex, Angelus, ETA ) so it doesn't really bother me that ETA movements are in some of the models. It's also the reason why I find the base PAMs reflects the DNA of the brand the best.
But at the price they are asking, I find the value proposition of the brand to be lacking. I was able to compare my previous PAM219 against an acquaintance's "made in shenzhen" 112, even comparing it up close (without a loupe) and apart from the usual telltale signs, I can say the differences are minimal. In fact, I think his 112 has a better AR than my 219![Crying or Very Sad :cry:](./images/smilies/icon_cry.gif)
But at the price they are asking, I find the value proposition of the brand to be lacking. I was able to compare my previous PAM219 against an acquaintance's "made in shenzhen" 112, even comparing it up close (without a loupe) and apart from the usual telltale signs, I can say the differences are minimal. In fact, I think his 112 has a better AR than my 219
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- doinkydoink
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The design is nice but for the price I rather get a MM300 plus one tuna and maybe still got change to buy kopi
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Oh ya.Solanum88 wrote:Panerai has been using outsourced movement for a long period in it's history(Rolex, Angelus, ETA ) so it doesn't really bother me that ETA movements are in some of the models. It's also the reason why I find the base PAMs reflects the DNA of the brand the best.
But at the price they are asking, I find the value proposition of the brand to be lacking. I was able to compare my previous PAM219 against an acquaintance's "made in shenzhen" 112, even comparing it up close (without a loupe) and apart from the usual telltale signs, I can say the differences are minimal. In fact, I think his 112 has a better AR than my 219
Thats another reason for the con.
The fake r so many out there that I dont wear pam anymore. Actually lolex, AP .... oso got fakes. Ha ha ha.....
I m bias now
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Depends which mm300 & tuna u getting.doinkydoink wrote:The design is nice but for the price I rather get a MM300 plus one tuna and maybe still got change to buy kopi
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Baby steps bro. The rusty kind are way out of my league.ivan wrote:Depends which mm300 & tuna u getting.doinkydoink wrote:The design is nice but for the price I rather get a MM300 plus one tuna and maybe still got change to buy kopi
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Is patina bro.doinkydoink wrote:Baby steps bro. The rusty kind are way out of my league.ivan wrote:
Depends which mm300 & tuna u getting.
Ha ha ha
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Patina.
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ivan wrote:Is patina bro.doinkydoink wrote:
Baby steps bro. The rusty kind are way out of my league.
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Patina.
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I m lost for words.doinkydoink wrote:ivan wrote:
Is patina bro.
Patina.
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bros, u hit the nail on the head...those are the reasons why i'm considering thisSolanum88 wrote:Panerai has been using outsourced movement for a long period in it's history(Rolex, Angelus, ETA ) so it doesn't really bother me that ETA movements are in some of the models. It's also the reason why I find the base PAMs reflects the DNA of the brand the best.
But at the price they are asking, I find the value proposition of the brand to be lacking. I was able to compare my previous PAM219 against an acquaintance's "made in shenzhen" 112, even comparing it up close (without a loupe) and apart from the usual telltale signs, I can say the differences are minimal. In fact, I think his 112 has a better AR than my 219
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No la. The one with the patina watches win.ivan wrote:I m lost for words.doinkydoink wrote:
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I have a pam 390. I like it for its sporty look and simple dial. Uses an eta movement but I don't really care, all the better for finding a cheaper third party service when the need arises.
But to those who don't like it they may hiam dial too simple, watch too big, etc. if you like it just buy it. But similar to rolex not all models retain good resale value. Mostly base pans are in demand, like the 000, 005, 111, 112, etc.
But to those who don't like it they may hiam dial too simple, watch too big, etc. if you like it just buy it. But similar to rolex not all models retain good resale value. Mostly base pans are in demand, like the 000, 005, 111, 112, etc.
Hoot 1st talk later!
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Neber thought I'd see the day that Bro Ivan is lost for words.. quickly go buy 4D Huat ah!ivan wrote:I m lost for words.doinkydoink wrote:
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Thanks for all the the replys from bros in scs..
They surely help muddy the waters even more..
The distillate from all these, just buy Seiko lah.. Cheers.
They surely help muddy the waters even more..
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The distillate from all these, just buy Seiko lah.. Cheers.